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lalalepusPosted at 2017-04-27 21:16:44(366 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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I agree the 24/96 khz rip is good, but not awesome.
It is probably due to turntable that was used, maybe it was a turntable with a usb connection, them turntables are generally poor due to their cartridges and stylus.
Oh well, it's better than nothing ( we have just wait and sit tight for a CD release)

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JanErikPosted at 2017-04-27 21:31:01(366 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)
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lalalepus wrote:

I agree the 24/96 khz rip is good, but not awesome.It is probably due to turntable that was used, maybe it was a turntable with a usb connection, them turntables are generally poor due to their cartridges and stylus.Oh well, it's better than nothing ( we have just wait and sit tight for a CD release)

Shouldn't be anything wrong with the equipment used:

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Condition: NM (ripped on first play)

Record cleaned with a KAB EV-1 prior to ripping.

Equipment used:
Custom Lenco L-70 (heavy birch plinth, PTP4 top plate) on an isolation sandbox
Jelco SA-750E tonearm
Denon DL-103R cartridge with an aftermarket aluminum Midas body
Musical Surroundings Phonomena II pre-amp
E-Mu 0202 USB ADC
Audio captured using the e-Mu ASIO driver for Windows.

24/96 wav captured in Audacity
Post-processing in ClickRepair and Izotope RX 5 Advanced

I'm no expert in turntables, but with some googling it seems like all of the equipment used are top notch. (Maybe apart from the operating system...)

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2017-04-27 22:13:36(366 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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I've listened to this a number of times over the last 2 days, I burned to a DVD-Audio and listened on a 5.1 system Blu-ray player and it sounds superb.

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lalalepusPosted at 2017-04-27 23:37:14(366 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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lol...I am grateful for the upload, very grateful indeed, but I am a digital freak and waiting patiently for a cd release, I'm not a vinyl fan anymore (I do miss the LP sized covers though).

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peluca97Posted at 2017-04-28 04:26:35(366 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmfcwLgAzWY

this sound beautiful for me

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korupt1Posted at 2017-04-29 01:35:51(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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JanErik wrote:

lalalepus wrote:

I agree the 24/96 khz rip is good, but not awesome.It is probably due to turntable that was used, maybe it was a turntable with a usb connection, them turntables are generally poor due to their cartridges and stylus.Oh well, it's better than nothing ( we have just wait and sit tight for a CD release)

Shouldn't be anything wrong with the equipment used:

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Condition: NM (ripped on first play)Record cleaned with a KAB EV-1 prior to ripping.Equipment used: Custom Lenco L-70 (heavy birch plinth, PTP4 top plate) on an isolation sandboxJelco SA-750E tonearm Denon DL-103R cartridge with an aftermarket aluminum Midas body Musical Surroundings Phonomena II pre-ampE-Mu 0202 USB ADCAudio captured using the e-Mu ASIO driver for Windows. 24/96 wav captured in AudacityPost-processing in ClickRepair and Izotope RX 5 Advanced

I'm no expert in turntables, but with some googling it seems like all of the equipment used are top notch. (Maybe apart from the operating system...)

could be some of the post processing he did on the recording.

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korupt1Posted at 2017-04-29 01:36:59(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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I'm waiting for the guy on yt to post his second needle drop with better needle installed, he says the sound is much improved.

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DavesolarDonatedPosted at 2017-04-29 15:33:08(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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Steveboy wrote:

I've listened to this a number of times over the last 2 days, I burned to a DVD-Audio and listened on a 5.1 system Blu-ray player and it sounds superb.Steveboy

Isn't it funny, we are waiting for years to get this released in better quality than we already have,
then it is there and immediately we see some moaning that it should be of better quality....

I'm with You Steveboy, to my ears it is real good, but may be some day we even get a better version,
but so far......we have this.....            8o     B)

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CrackedActorPosted at 2017-04-29 15:58:29(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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The rip the guy did in his isolation sandbox is good enough for me.

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Jean-HenriPosted at 2017-04-29 20:49:55(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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I have downloaded a 16 khz rip from mygully.com, which sounds better on my sound system than the discussed 24 khz rip.

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korupt1Posted at 2017-04-29 21:10:21(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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I have a few different ones now and they do vary in quality, I think the guy may have over post processed the 24 kHz rip.

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JanErikPosted at 2017-04-29 23:00:06(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)
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Jean-Henri wrote:

I have downloaded a 16 khz rip from mygully.com, which sounds better on my sound system than the discussed 24 khz rip.

That is a little strange...

It is the same rip. Same info file (apart from the 16-44 being transcoded) and the exactly same length in  milliseconds.

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Jean-HenriPosted at 2017-04-29 23:20:15(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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Jan-Erik, I downloaded the 24-96 torrent from Extratorrent. The file was 2GB.


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JanErikPosted at 2017-04-29 23:41:47(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)
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Jean-Henri wrote:

Jan-Erik, I downloaded the 24-96 torrent from Extratorrent. The file was 2GB.

Just checked out Extratorrent. This is also the same version. I downloaded "Time" to check, and it has the same ffp as the others.
It originated on Apollo posted by the ripper in both 24-96 and 16-44 (and also MP3 versions).
From there it has spread elsewhere.

So far the 24 bit version has been found Apollo, Demonoid, Usenet and now Extratorrent.
The 16 bit transcoded version on Apollo and mygully.com
MP3 transcoded on Apollo, mygully.com and usenet.

Check the 2 versions you have, they should have the exactly same length in milliseconds :)

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ShhlonkFromMarsPosted at 2017-04-30 00:37:34(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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Listened to the 24-96 Torrent through Fiio amp/DAC combo with Beyerdynamic DT 1770 pro headphones. Played on Foobar2000. Sounds bloody great to me people.

Info from torrent:
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Jelco SA-750E tonearm
Denon DL-103R cartridge with an aftermarket aluminum Midas body
Musical Surroundings Phonomena II pre-amp
E-Mu 0202 USB ADC
Audio captured using the e-Mu ASIO driver for Windows.

24/96 wav captured in Audacity
Post-processing in ClickRepair and Izotope RX 5 Advanced
Tags cleaned up in foobar2000

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korupt1Posted at 2017-04-30 01:18:48(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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the guy on youtube has a link to his version on the page. It would not be the same as the other ones floating around.

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JanErikPosted at 2017-04-30 01:28:51(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)
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korupt1 wrote:

the guy on youtube has a link to his version on the page. It would not be the same as the other ones floating around.

Yes, that is another version and he posted it in 16/44.

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clarkgwentPosted at 2017-04-30 02:45:31(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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Who hears "Hey, you like-a ladies' dresses, ah?" in the middle of Moonage Daydream? Sounds to me like it's either a more-or-less-off-mic comment from Bowie that has been given a sonic boost, or it's been spliced in from the missing banter. Most odd!

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2017-04-30 07:14:21(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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clarkgwent wrote:

Who hears "Hey, you like-a ladies' dresses, ah?" in the middle of Moonage Daydream? Sounds to me like it's either a more-or-less-off-mic comment from Bowie that has been given a sonic boost, or it's been spliced in from the missing banter. Most odd!

Yep I get that quite clear on the 24/96 version not bothered with the other versions, quite happy with the one from Apollo.

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earlgreyPosted at 2017-04-30 13:14:51(365 wks ago) (Bowie General / RSD 2017)


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clarkgwent wrote:

Who hears "Hey, you like-a ladies' dresses, ah?" in the middle of Moonage Daydream? Sounds to me like it's either a more-or-less-off-mic comment from Bowie that has been given a sonic boost, or it's been spliced in from the missing banter. Most odd!

I noticed that when I first played it a few days ago. Wish that had been left out, it jars a bit halfway through a song. (It's at 2:32 for those that are interested).

Odd that the comments between songs were edited out and that bit was put in. I used Audacity to put the long introduction and the missing comments, " ... sixteen inch heels, no fall down ..", " rock 'n' rolly in the alley", " .. now you're gonna see elephants .." and so on, back in where they should be.

On first hearing it I thought Cracked Actor sounded a bit lacklustre. I'd recently been listening to this version   http://www.davidbowieworld.nl/video/audio-david-bowie-live-in-los-angeles-1974/  but got Cracked Actor from a link that briefly appeared on the Steve Hoffman website at about 4.00 a.m. on Wednesday morning. That link was only to an mp3 file but subsequent FLAC downloads, as mentioned in various posts above, do sound much better.

I don't suppose Tony Visconti can be persuaded to add the missing comments back in for the inevitable CD release can he?

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