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MichaelPosted at 2018-06-09 08:50:32(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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Hi everyone, I've been a fan of Bowie for over 40 years and still get chills when I hear certain tracks that show his true genius. I'm sure you will all agree with me that what I find so annoying and frustrating is when you hear of another auction where an unreleased acetate by Bowie sells for X amount of money, purchased by a private collector never to be heard or shared with all of us other true Bowie fans. If any of those collectors happen to come by this great site, just one word, SHARE! Please

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bowie78Posted at 2018-06-09 11:28:17(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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so they buy it for x amount of pounds then you as a true fan want them to give it away for free....why dont you buy it and then give it away for free ....to the true fans?

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MichaelPosted at 2018-06-09 18:08:26(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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I think you've obviously missed the point I was trying to make :?
As for sharing these songs I would gladly do so, however I simply don't have the financial recourses to make that happen. I wouldn't be interested in making any money on them. Perhaps that makes me different from some but that's me 8)

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MichaelPosted at 2018-06-09 18:08:35(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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I think you've obviously missed the point I was trying to make :?
As for sharing these songs I would gladly do so, however I simply don't have the financial recourses to make that happen. I wouldn't be interested in making any money on them. Perhaps that makes me different from some but that's me 8)

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MichaelPosted at 2018-06-09 18:08:42(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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I think you've obviously missed the point I was trying to make :?
As for sharing these songs I would gladly do so, however I simply don't have the financial recourses to make that happen. I wouldn't be interested in making any money on them. Perhaps that makes me different from some but that's me 8)

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MichaelPosted at 2018-06-09 18:11:09(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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This is proof. My laptop is so old it freezes then throws 4 replies at once

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steve23yhPosted at 2018-06-10 15:31:02(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)
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I'm with you on how good it is to share - but who's to say that the people who buy these expensive items aren't true fans?  It's not like religion - being poorer doesn't make you truer!  

I remember back when there was speculation about David touring The Next Day, a lot of invective against Jonathan Ross (sure to get tickets, unlike the true fans).  He's a huge fan - just because he's got the cash, doesn't mean that he loses his right to be a fan!

But you can't take it with you.  Over on bootlegzone there was a thread about 'what will happen to your collection when you die'.  Consensus for most people was landfill.  

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ayresPosted at 2018-06-10 23:25:28(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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what songs are in collectors hands?

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paperdragonPosted at 2018-06-11 01:11:09(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)
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When I saw the title of this post my first thought was that it would be more nonsense I'd have to deal with - but, Michael, I couldn't agree more. And Steve, a true fan would be broke.... he'd have spent all his money on music!

I've seen the same thing happen, time and time again, with paintings. I apprenticed under Warhol, and paintings that I had a part in are now selling for millions - not to people who appreciate art, but to very wealthy people who see them as an investment that will make them a profit in the future.

And I hope they all get locked in a bank vault in hell. People who deny art from the world deserve nothing less.



...and then my mind split open.
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interplayDonatedPosted at 2018-06-11 18:52:16(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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This is a slippery slope subject, but I must say: Clearly I am a true fan because I sure am broke, but I have a lot of recordings to show for it.

So now that that's all settled, who's going to go tape the Celebrating Bowie shows in Iceland?

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korupt1Posted at 2018-06-12 01:52:44(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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there are probably a few recordings held by private collectors, but at this point not much, most of if not all that we have never heard before sits in Bowie's estate. Whether over time this stuff will get released is the big question.

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ayresPosted at 2018-06-12 02:24:42(301 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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i believe that many songs will remain unreleased , because the famous"quality control", according Jeff Rougvie(rykodisc) the man himself vetoed a lot of proposed outtakes and different versions.
After Toy, Leon, Tin Machine 2 demos, nothing more was leaked

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bowie78Posted at 2018-06-13 10:15:56(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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the bowie estate are hoarders...they have the hemmings-78 reels rotting away for one ....its only now that db has passed some of it is being released...the vault is vast ....a few collectors hoarding is nothing ...lets not forget they have lots of soundboards from different eras...a few audience recordings are small chips to them.....but do they have to make available everything?....

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marksachDonatedPosted at 2018-06-13 10:55:14(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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I recently spoke to Kevin Cann & he told me he owns a lot of the early stuff, like the Ernie Johnson tapes  & others. He said he hadn’t even listened to a lot of them himself yet. He got them from Ken Pitt, whom he sees regularly. Practically the entire early section of the ‘David Bowie Is’ exhibition  belongs to Kevin.

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bowie78Posted at 2018-06-13 17:34:19(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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yes thats correct kevin cann has much early material.....but why should he give it up for so called true fans.....we all have our thing in bowie collecting....mine is chasing live recordings from 1978...i have no interest outside of that...so as such new unheard songs are of no interest to me...

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ayresPosted at 2018-06-14 01:54:12(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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there's a kind of fans that loves to buy colored vinyls, again and again, and don't care about unreleased tracks
I just can't understand this kind of fans

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ramoanaPosted at 2018-06-14 05:53:37(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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Someone told me a long time ago the "inner circle" do not want to release their recordings and want to keep it that way, it keeps their collections more valuable.

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"If it itches, play it."
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bowie78Posted at 2018-06-14 08:25:28(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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i dont think the inner circle exist....i have never known anyone that belongs...not even me..

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marksachDonatedPosted at 2018-06-14 11:39:45(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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It all comes down to how we each view the term ‘collector’.  I personally would be happy to share everything I have  by any of the artists II like, Beatles, Beach Boys, etc.  And have turned down some things from the so called ‘inner circles’ of those two in particular as I refused to sign up to a ‘you can’t share this’ regime.

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ayresPosted at 2018-06-14 13:50:32(300 wks ago) (Bowie General / For all the true fans)


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i know that the fans will never share his treasures, but after 2016 i was hoping some kind official Anthology or even bootleg series volumes

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