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508loopdetectedPosted at 2021-02-10 18:36:12(167 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Hi all -- I posted this to the shoutbox too, but this might get more replies:

Has the full length / unedited version of "Omikron (New Angels of Promise)" ever been bootlegged? I'd never seen it shared on MWP, here, or anywhere. Anyway, I've recently gone through the effort of extracting a WAV of the full 4:43 version from my Dreamcast disc in very excellent quality (far better than the grainy Omikron compilations). I had no idea the full length song existed on the disc until this week and would love some help uploading to the Station if it's not already available here. I know I've been trying to track it down for years and figured others probably have as well! The only other reference I could find of this was a random YouTube video from 2013, which sent me down this rabbit hole to begin with.

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2021-02-11 14:15:01(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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4:39 version on the hours bonus disc

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CosmicJivePosted at 2021-02-11 17:45:16(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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The version on the 'hours...' bonus disc is not the Omikron game version. The chorus lyric is different. It goes 'suspicious minds' on 'hours...' while it goes 'omikron' in the game version. As far as I know the true Omikron versions of the songs were never released.

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508loopdetectedPosted at 2021-02-11 18:35:36(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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CosmicJive is correct, the 'hours...' bonus disc is inaccurate and has the wrong one, which is more like an early mix of the album version. The version featured in the game itself sounds very different and has the mentioned lyric change. Until now (seemingly), bootlegs have only included a shortened 2-or-so minute edit in grainy quality, since that's how it appears during the game's intro sequence.

That's where I'd like to come in, if the full length + better quality version I've extracted is indeed as new to others as it is to me. Is creating a new release here as simple as using the Upload Torrent form? I saw a thing somewhere about torrents only being accepted by verified uploaders, so I just wanted to be sure.

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508loopdetectedPosted at 2021-02-11 19:09:35(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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https://drive.google.com/file/d/18W8e2_cB1JUfqA-aWhjLRSVW24OJRgxw/view?usp=sharing

Here's a sample clip so people can verify whether this already exists out in the wild. If allowed though, I'd prefer making a proper torrent of the whole thing so it can include WAV, FLAC, and some information (for posterity or something, I don't know).

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CosmicJivePosted at 2021-02-11 20:13:28(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Sounds great this is definitely a quality upgrade! And as far as I can tell I never heard this bit of music. Then again it's been ages since I played the game. Love to hear some of the ambient pieces, like awaken II and the Fight songs in this quality too. Funny that the Dreamcast port used a higher quality audio than the PC version.

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508loopdetectedPosted at 2021-02-11 21:11:24(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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CosmicJive wrote:

Sounds great this is definitely a quality upgrade! And as far as I can tell I never heard this bit of music. Then again it's been ages since I played the game.

Right? I was blown away at how different the middle section sounds. The songs is clearly in its demo stage compared to the album version, but I actually prefer it!

CosmicJive wrote:

Love to hear some of the ambient pieces, like awaken II and the Fight songs in this quality too. Funny that the Dreamcast port used a higher quality audio than the PC version.

Well, that's the thing. This one song was actually discovered as a raw audio track alongside the regular data tracks. It's the only one of its kind on the disc besides the standard "Do not play this Dreamcast disc in your CD player..." recording.

Inside the game data itself, the rest of the game's audio uses a proprietary version of the .ADP file format. According to my research so far, only a handful of Dreamcast games used something like this instead of a more standard format or approach. On top of that, it's apparently very difficult to convert with full quality perfectly represented, AND it's more likely than not that the developers compressed the audio before saving to this format to begin with (hence the grainy sound we're used to and probably for Dreamcast reasons).

So knowing all that, "New Angels of Promise" might be a one-off quality wise. On the other hand, this great sounding (albeit mono) boot exists with a comment by Ballhaus:
https://www.bowiestation.com/torrents-details.php?id=784

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The first CD i version of the songs from 'nomad soul'; the computer game.
CD2 is seperation of lyrics and backing track which was made so one of the game programmmers could make 'lipp sync' for the figures in the game performing the songs.

So maybe it's worth my giving this a shot anyway, just in case I can produce something lossless that's a bit of an upgrade to the norm.

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2021-02-12 09:42:26(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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So why not get the rips done then I will help you with the torrent. I can't get to this link for some reason with the clip on.

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100PCBPosted at 2021-02-12 11:17:00(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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https://we.tl/t-T9AyRbHOcb

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taojonesindexDonatedPosted at 2021-02-12 11:45:08(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Thank you very much, 508loopdetected & 100PCB!
Didn't know about this special superior version until know.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-02-12 11:49:11(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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The Omikron version runs at 2:19 on the CD I have - yet Gary's above is 4:43.

I have 3 CD's of Omikron material:
1 - Journey To Omikron City (Eat A Peach)
2 - Omikron (The Nomad Soul) game soundtrack
3 - Omikron (The Dreamers) game soundtrack.
All are different tracklistings, and the only version of New Angels is the short one, on discs 1 & 2 above.

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508loopdetectedPosted at 2021-02-12 15:06:56(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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neilwilkes wrote:

The Omikron version runs at 2:19 on the CD I have - yet Gary's above is 4:43.I have 3 CD's of Omikron material:1 - Journey To Omikron City (Eat A Peach)2 - Omikron (The Nomad Soul) game soundtrack3 - Omikron (The Dreamers) game soundtrack.All are different tracklistings, and the only version of New Angels is the short one, on discs 1 & 2 above.

I believe this is because Omikron boots are made from in-game audio data, which are stored as regular files in various subdirectories. This particular track however, comes off the Dreamcast disc as a CD audio track and not a data file like the other music.

Thanks to 100PCB for the link above (I was probably too caught up on making a torrent). For when the WeTransfer link expires, here's my WAV rip along with a tagged FLAC conversion at a hopefully more permanent spot:

https://mega.nz/file/fZYm3Rrb#g5Q7diU9EA_yshLDz2_KoKU9BeFktWdzcVb-WwXRySU

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MrBiteyPosted at 2021-02-12 22:17:44(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Thank you very much for this!!

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aladinveinPosted at 2021-02-13 10:45:17(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Thanks 508loopdetected & 100PCB!

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hyttonrunnPosted at 2021-02-13 13:11:26(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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thanks for sharing



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CosmicJivePosted at 2021-02-14 13:22:18(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Thanks!

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PortlandbillPosted at 2021-02-14 20:49:44(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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I thought it might have been on the 2015 - Hours MOVLP1400 [vinyl], but no alas it's different so good find!!.

Thanks for the upload one I didn't have.

Cheers PB.  O:-D



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maartenPosted at 2021-02-15 10:25:52(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Great find, thanks!

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-02-15 12:00:26(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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Steve - I shall send you the 3 boot CD's I have.
I also looked ion my 3 disc game set, and could not find anything but I had not looked for a CD-Audio track & will do so - just to see.
In the meantime, my Omikron sets are on the way to you - please feel free to torrent them

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2021-02-16 09:13:17(166 wks ago) (Bowie General / Omikron (New Angels of Promise) - 4:43 Full Length WAV from Game Disc)


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neilwilkes wrote:

Steve - I shall send you the 3 boot CD's I have.I also looked ion my 3 disc game set, and could not find anything but I had not looked for a CD-Audio track & will do so - just to see.In the meantime, my Omikron sets are on the way to you - please feel free to torrent them

Received not had chance o check them all yet due to work. One of them is on this site from what I can find. More info later.

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