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MainManPosted at 2021-04-16 09:04:20(3 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2021/4/13/the-width-of-a-circle-due-next-month

DAVID BOWIE - THE WIDTH OF A CIRCLE

COMPANION PIECE TO METROBOLIST CELEBRATING 50 YEARS OF THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD

TWO CD SET FEATURING 21 UNRELEASED TRACKS

FOUR TRACK 10” SINGLE / HIGH RESOLUTION (96/24) DIGITAL E.P. FEATURING 4 NON-ALBUM SINGLES NEWLY REMIXED BY TONY VISCONTI

THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD ALBUM PICTURE DISC

RELEASED 28th MAY ON PARLOPHONE

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willb3dPosted at 2021-04-18 21:52:59(3 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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Reading over this news and sampling the earlier versions of the BBC recordings made me realize I really don’t like the “folky” David Bowie. It’s so earnest.

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willb3dPosted at 2021-04-18 22:05:09(3 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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By the way, Tony-Tony-Tony Visconti-Visconti-Visconti has confirmed that the BBC set on disc 1 comes from his tape, not from Bowie’s tape, this time.

Vlad676 on the Hoffman forum says:

Tony Visconti comments on Facebook.

Q: I'm very much looking forward to hearing that BBC Sunday Show in its totality. Do I recall correctly that your mom recorded this for you, off the radio, TV?

Tony: No, I recorded it directly from the output of a radio in London. My mom and dad lived in Brooklyn, NY. The quality is as good as you could get for the time, and it cleaned up very well for this little box set.


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adams66Posted at 2021-04-19 07:56:38(3 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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So I wonder what happened to Bowie's own tape which was allegedly used for the Bowie At The Beeb set? Bearing in mind that recording anything off the radio was a bit hit and miss in 1970, I hope Visconti's tape is at least as good as the source used 20 years ago.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-04-21 10:50:50(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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The version in the 'official' version is of course incomplete.
There is a full length version already out there though - it's on the Magic Bus box set called 'The Ultimate BBC Radio Recording Sessions' and it is 100% complete with the between-track comments from both John Peel & Bowie still included (and I wager these are edited out on the new version).
I freely confess I am looking forward to this very much indeed - and I want to know where the 5.1 versions are, as Tony will have done them at the same time for all his remix work.

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interplayDonatedPosted at 2021-04-22 20:12:10(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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Hm.
2017. I must have missed that box.
Is this it?

https://www.guitars101.com/threads/david-bowie-1967-1972-bbc-radio-performances-sbd-flac.271978/#post-1536466

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-04-25 12:18:10(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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interplay wrote:

Hm.2017. I must have missed that box.Is this it?https://www.guitars101.com/threads/david-bowie-1967-1972-bbc-radio-performances-sbd-flac.271978/#post-1536466

Nope.
That is not the one. From what I can see, that is the one below.
The Lost Sessions - Rare Radio Recordings
2018 Leftfield Media 2CD edition (LFM2CD582)

The one I am talking about is a 6CD Longbox Boxed Set, and the packaging is literally streets ahead of the official version with really good quality audio on the most part - the so-called 'lost session' of January 11 1972 is not great, taken as it must be from a radio recording (although some bugger somewhere must have the BBC Transcription disc lying about, as that is how it was all done back then).
Until this was announced though (Width Of A Circle) it was the only place I had ever seen a full length version of the Paris Theatre John Peel show.

This new release will be worthwhile for the new Visconti mixes and The Hype's BBC session in full. Everything else is a bonus, and I am certainly in - I also hope a 24/96 version is done.
Not bothering with 10" vinyl, as that is a cynical parlophone cash grab. If there was a complete vinyl edition I might go for it, but never in dribs & drabs.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-04-25 12:19:41(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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Here's my info file from the Box Set (all rips are from my silvers)

David Bowie
The Ultimate BBC Radio Recording Sessions 1967-2000
8CD Box Set Edition, (Magic Bus MB 06)

Lineage - Factory Silver Replicas > EAC > FLAC L5 > You

Tracklisting:
(Session details precede the tracklists)

CD 1

Top Gear, 18 December 1967
01 Love You Till Tuesday
02 When I Live My Dream
03 Little Bombardier
04 Silly Boy Blue
05 In The Heat Of The Morning

Top Gear, 13 May 1968
06 London Bye Ta-Ta
07 In The Heat Of The Morning
08 Karma Man
09 When I'm Five
10 Silly Boy Blue

Dave Lee Travis Show, 20 October 1969
11 Let Me Sleep Beside You
12 Unwashed And Somewhat Slightly Dazed
13 Janine

CD 2

The Sunday Show introduced by John Peel, 5 February 1970
01 Amsterdam
02 John Peel Talk
03 God Knows I'm Good
04 Buzz The Fuzz
05 Karma Man
06 London Bye Ta-Ta
07 An Occasional Dream
08 John Peel Talk
09 The Width Of A Circle
10 Janine
11 The Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud
12 Introduction by John Peel / Unwashed And Somewhat Slightly Dazed
13 Fill Your Heart
14 The Prettiest Star
15 Cygnet Committee
16 John Peel Talk
17 Memory Of A Free Festival

CD 3

Sounds Of The Seventies, Andy Ferris, 25 March 1970
01 I'm Waiting For The Man
02 The Width Of A Circle
03 The Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud
04 The Supermen

In Concert, John Peel 3 June 1971
05 John Peel Intro / Queen Bitch
06 John Peel Talk
07 Bombers
08 John Peel Talk
09 The Supermen
10 John Peel Talk
11 Looking For A Friend
12 John Peel Talk
13 Almost Grown (lead vocal Geoffrey Alexander)
14 John Peel Talk / David Bowie Talk
15 Kooks
16 John Peel Talk / David Bowie Talk
17 Song For Bob Dylan (lead vocal George Underwood)
18 John Peel Talk / David Bowie Talk
19 Andy Warhol (lead vocal Dana Gillespie)
20 John Peel Talk
21 It Ain't Easy (lead vocal David Bowie, Geoffrey Alexander, George Underwood)

CD 4

Sounds Of The Seventies, Bob Harris, 21 September 1971
01 The Supermen
02 Oh! You Pretty Things / Eight Line Poen
03 Kooks
04 Fill Your Heart
05 Amsterdam
06 Andy Warhol

Sounds Of The Seventies, John Peel 11 January 1972
07 Ziggy Stardust
08 Queen Bitch
09 I'm Waiting For The Man
10 Lady Stardust

Sounds Of The Seventies, Bob Harris 18 January 1972
11 Hang Onto Yourself
12 Ziggy Stardust
13 Queen Bitch
14 I'm Waiting For The Man
15 Five Years

CD 5

Sounds Of The Seventies, John Peel 16 May 1972
01 White Light/White Heat
02 Moonage Daydream
03 Hang Onto Yourself
04 Suffragette City
05 Ziggy Stardust

Johnny Walker Lunchtime Show, 22 May 1972
06 Starman
07 Space Oddity
08 Changes
09 Oh! You Pretty Things

Sounds Of The Seventies, Bob Harris 23 May 1972
10 Andy Warhol
11 Lady Stardust
12 White Light/White Heat
13 Rock 'n' Roll Suicide

Mark Goodier's Evening Session, 13 August 1991
14 A Big Hurt
15 Baby Universal
16 Stateside
17 If There Is Something
18 Heaven's In Here

CD 6

Changesnowbowie, 7 January 1997
01 Intro
02 Interview
03 The Man Who Sold The World
04 The Supermen
05 Interview
06 Andy Warhol
07 Repetition
08 Interview
09 Lady Stardust
10 White Light/White Heat
11 Interview
12 Shopping For Girls
13 Interview
14 Quicksand
15 Aladdin Sane
16 Interview
17 I Can't Read

CD 7

The Mark And Lard Show, 25 October 1999
01 Intro
02 Survive
03 Interview
04 Drive-in Saturday
05 Interview
06 Something In The Air
07 Interview
08 Can't Help Thinking About Me
09 Repetition

The Saturday Music Mix, 25 October 1999
10 Interview with Billy Bragg
11 Survive
12 China Girl

CD 8

Live And Exclusive, 18 September 2002
01 Sunday
02 Look Back In Anger
03 Cactus
04 Survive
05 5:15 The Angels Have Gone
06 Alabama Song
07 Everyone Says "Hi"
08 Rebel Rebel
09 The Bewlay Brothers
10 Heathen (The Rays)

Notes.
CD 1 is all straightforward material, available before but this release sets the tone very quickly as far as overall quality goes. Not only is the music here the best versions of each session available but the packaging also puts the official release to utter shame. It is in the "Long Box" format so loved by bootleggers these days (and oddly enough the Ryko releases back in the day were also available in Long Box editions for about 5 minutes) with a really nice 36 page booklet full of well chosen photos and a *lot* of session information as well, detailing not only band members but also the technical crews and sound mixers/engineers where known so the compilers have done their research well. I have not reproduced those details in this file because full art scans are included in the archive at 300DPI for better clarity.

CD2 is where it starts to get interesting, with the first of the 2 Paris Theatre shows in full taking up the entire CD - a good decision.

CD3 opens with the full session by "The Hype", almost progressive versions and a true classic. Superb quality throughout. Then comes the second - also complete - show from In Concert at the Paris Theatre (usually this one is missing at least 2 tracks as they are not on the BBC transcription disc so were not so much lost as never intended for broadcast in the first place)

CD4 begins with the only stereo session from the era, featuring Bowie & Ronson in full flow and some cracking acoustic renditions are on offer here. Nothing new, but taken with what comes next we sadly arrive at the only session in poor quality: The so-called "Lost Session" from 11 January 1972 and the introduction of Ziggy Stardust to the world now seems to be missing - someone must have a transcription disc of this.
The final set here is the one from a week later, and we are back to the usual quality of this set for the rest of the content.

CD5 continues with the balance of the Ziggy sessions & then jumps to Tin Machine.

CD6 is the specially recorded for the BBC Acoustic Session recorded during rehearsals for the Birthday gig (still officially unreleased) and it is great to have a full, complete version.

The last 2 discs are a strange mix. The Mark & Lard show has some fine playing & a great rendition of Drive-in Saturday, and it is also interesting that around this time Bowie was playing live some of the old 60's material (The London Boys, Can't Help Thinking About Me) presumably for the dropped "Toy" album. The final disc is a full on Heathen show where once again the live band are clearly superior to the studio cuts - why was the combination of Gail-Ann & Sterling never used in the Studio?

This is a great set that will enhance anybody's collection

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interplayDonatedPosted at 2021-04-25 17:49:48(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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So you know what the next question is, right?

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attfieldDonatedPosted at 2021-04-26 08:52:35(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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And the next answer... nearly all officially released so can't be posted here.
Soulseek is probably the best place to go.
It's been there before.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-04-27 09:04:51(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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attfield wrote:

And the next answer... nearly all officially released so can't be posted here.Soulseek is probably the best place to go.It's been there before.

Most of it is unreleased to be blunt.
All that was ever officially issued to date is the 2CD's and the 4LP set.
This new release will finally do the Paris Theatre in full (probably minus the chat) and The Hype's session in full (high time that was done officially, as it is bloody awesome).
All that is missing from the 6CD set is the 2000 Radio Theatre show.

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stuartreedPosted at 2021-04-27 19:01:53(2 wks ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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Parlophone could do far worse than bootlegging the Magic Bus set including the artwork

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-04-29 18:58:13(1 wk ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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stuartreed wrote:

Parlophone could do far worse than bootlegging the Magic Bus set including the artwork

Parlophone have done far worse already! :D

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2021-04-29 19:38:18(1 wk ago) (Bowie General / The Width of a Circle)


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neilwilkes wrote:

stuartreed wrote:

Parlophone could do far worse than bootlegging the Magic Bus set including the artwork

Parlophone have done far worse already! :D

Love this post Neil......   :-)  :-)  :-)



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