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gousterPosted at 2025-02-13 14:25:58(10 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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100PCB wrote:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220310215421/http://theyoungamerican.co.uk/sigma_sound_aug_sessions.htm

Thanks! I should have mentioned that some of the website can be found via archive.org. However, not all pages are complete and the ones that are visible aren't necessarily the most recent.

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2025-02-13 15:03:12(10 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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this chap
and the rest of the
''we've heard it''
guys in the video
say there's Luther Vandross singing a lead vocal Bowie song
on one of these tapes
over the 'wrong' music
maybe none of it will ever be set free
is it not ok to dream for 5 minutes
?

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oumzozoPosted at 2025-02-13 23:35:11(10 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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you got the tape 2 on the bootlegs (the complete Young Americans first takes, Shilling The Rubes...)
John I'm Only Dancing Again is missing but there is an audio snippet around.
So I think we miss some tracks from tape 1 & 3
That said, I had never expected I could hear one day the first take of Young Americans

and of course, now there is more with the discovery of these new reels.

I wonder how many takes there have been of "Across The Universe"; wish there could be some alternate takes or rehearsals with John Lennon sharing vocals or harmonies.

I think that during these sessions David Bowie's voice was changing - he is really going at through all these songs - and this sessions always fascinated me.
The Sweet Thing/Candidate theme revisited by Ava Cherry (and the B face acetate) was really really good.

This could have been a triple LP  :)

But like most of us here I don't expect a full box of rarities before several decades... unfortunately...

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ayresPosted at 2025-02-14 00:26:22(10 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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As incredible as it may seem, the most important tape was released on bootlegs.
I would like to know other takes of the song Lazer, if they exist with the estate.
The versions of Saint in the City would also be interesting to hear.
I believe that the recordings made with Lennon may also have something different or even the draft of some unknown song.

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2025-02-15 17:13:30(10 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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Lennon, Vandross, Bowie
there's 3 sets of lawyers

maybe something will trickle out

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ayresPosted at 2025-02-15 19:17:41(10 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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When Max puts these songs on YouTube he won't need lawyers...don't worry

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2025-02-16 00:59:58(10 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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who's worried

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oumzozoPosted at 2025-03-02 23:01:37(8 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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Professor ? did you spot something new on this extended David Bowie box set ? (was initially a bootleg (it's the remastered version by Captain Acid; thus I don't know if he re-EQ'ed a bootleg or if this is a fan release).

as far as I can tell the extended version of "Across The Universe" is a stereo mix of the 5.1 DVD which as a longer outro where you can hear John Lennon saying "let me just drop in!"
Footstomping TV show was on the official DVD.
The "stripped-down" mix have probably been done using the 5.1 mix of Young Americans (from the official DVD - which is quite old now)

"Fame "with flute overdubs is well known.

Luther Vandross's version is an official track.

The 2 Ava Cherry songs have been shared here...

https://www.guitars101.com/threads/david-bowie-plastic-soul-young-americans-sessions-_captainacidremaster.826513/

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2025-03-03 14:26:23(8 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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no
i think i'm just
up to date
but not in the inner most circle
sadly

the Stripped Mixes can be done with an online file splitter program
and those radio/extras
are all lossy
Some bootlegs use 'clips' taken from Drexel's own website with a lecture about their finds.
Downloadable in glorious MP3.

the one interesting thing about the Cher TV Show [bootlegged] tracks
is they aren't edited
on most fan versions
the show WAS released on a new DVD recently-ish
but they have cut-out some of the songs in the medley

it's the Luther = the band = yes, he A Band at one time - version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_BUvb5K1gE
"let me just drop in on..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6OcVyENlc
there's a 10 'CD' set of HIS out-takes online = i hear
and you get Lennon saying six words for your money
is the only difference
?
i have 3 versions of the same Sigma tracks in one file
on one - or may be 3 of these hdd boxes

"Luther Vandross sings A Bowie Song,
AND it's THE Lead Vocal....
...over the 'wrong music'......"

I have still yet to hear.
Lawyers,
lawyers,
lawyers.



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oumzozoPosted at 2025-03-04 02:04:33(8 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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I have browsed through this set : the extended version of Across The Universe doesn't have John Lennon saying "let me just drop in!"
at the time when the 5.1 DVD came out, I used to isolate front/rear/center channels to create some stripped-down mix.
Footstomping was on the DVD (as a video).
I remember "Somebody Up There's Like Me" could sound so cool with just piano + minimalist bass and David's poignant vocals.

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2025-03-05 12:34:10(8 wks ago) (Bowie General / New recording - Sigma Sound Studios in 1974)


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"You can do your own drum 'n' bass mixes with them."
how do you explain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IBJaq9zWzM
i get requests

someone called Kevin Armstrong didn't hate one of my edits recently
"Recorded during a tropical thunderstorm."
instead of paying $40-60+ for one track
i've been making my own

the only place i heard those lines by Lennon
is 'on' a 10 CD set
''I've seen it on the internet"

sadly no others from that session
which is 'funny'
coz' there's so many other run throughs on it

yes - i know u can have fun with DVD's apart from watching them
i just suggested a bootlegger went the easiest and cheapest way
they don't spend a weekend on one word
:-@

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