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Rael076Posted at 2021-11-21 03:46:30(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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I saw this on another site and was curious if this is just a fake or if these tracks did make it out.

https://ibb.co/sgVyGqc

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bofinken57Posted at 2021-11-21 04:44:18(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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PROBABLY FAKE OR WHAT DO OTHERS THINK ABOUT THIS

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BallhausDonatedPosted at 2021-11-21 07:35:59(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Probably to good to be true

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-11-21 09:53:57(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Although Kenn Pitt mentioned it briefly in his book "The Pitt Report", it wasn't until 1996 that came to light that Bowie in 1968 had written his own rock opera. Offered for auction at Christie's in London (on June 6th) was a tape and a set of lyrics. The rather bizarre plot of the Ernie Johnson rock opera was described in Record Collector 202, p. 94-95: "Ernie's staging a suicide party, at which Tiny Tim is one of the guests (cue a song); Ernie remembers his passing loves from the previous year; he has a racist conversation with a tramp; sings a song to himself in the mirror; rushes of to Carnaby Street to buy a tie for the big occasion of his suicide—and there the song and stage directions come to an end." So far, Record Collector is the only source of information, as it failed to sell at the auction. Apparently the cassette was sold and offered on eBay in 2005, but it failed to sell as it was pulled after legal interference.

Recorded probably in February 1968, the Ernie Johnson tape includes ten songs, recorded by David on a four-track tape recorder:

Tiny Tim (Bowie): the opening song contains camp lyrics such as "Your friend, he's really rather bona/A cultivated stud, Tim?/You're wearing high drag, but your eyes/Have a teensy weensy sad, dad/I'' keep it mum, dad."

Where's The Loo (Bowie): described by Record Collector as "a comic extravanganza for three cockney party-goers".

Season Folk (Bowie): described as "ultra-romantic, falling midway between the cynical idealism of 'London Boys' and Bowie's later open-eyed worship of the Warhol-scene".

Just a Moment Sir (Bowie): notorious for its lyrics, a dialogue between a tramp and Ernie about the problems of "nig-nogs".

Various Times Of Day (Bowie): a suite of songs including 'Early Morning', Noon-Lunchtime' and 'Evening'.

Ernie Boy (Bowie): Ernie's dramatic monologue, complete with an ad-libbed intro: "Suicide isn't something I've always wanted to do... I'm not running away, I know who I am".

This Is My Day (Bowie): Ernie celebrates his forthcoming self-destruction.

Untitled (Bowie): the last, untitled track of the rock opera, has Ernie visiting a Carnaby Street boutique: "Just look at the quality of our shirts/That's not a stain, sir/That's a psychedelic motif."

Tagged after the Ernie Johnson mini-opera are three more songs:

Going Down (Bowie): described by RC as "a long, fragmentary, maybe unfinished song".

Love You Till Tuesday (Bowie): the familiar demo. Click the icon to listen!

Over The Wall We Go (Bowie): also available on acetate, this song to found its way to fans. Click the icon to listen!




could be real.. depending on the price i would consider it.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-11-21 11:06:19(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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'Over The Wall We Go' is available in better than acetate - it turned up on a compilation album, along with 'Silver Tree Top School For Boys' in superb quality a few years back.
PM with an EMAIL ADDRESS if you want a copy

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Stranger09DonatedPosted at 2021-11-21 11:16:21(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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I remember someone saying that one of the tracks had the same chords as Queen Bitch?

Though researching this (likely justifiably dismissed) project is something I tend to avoid thinking about and sullying his classic tracks with.  :-)

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bowiebingoPosted at 2021-11-21 12:06:38(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Feels like all of that early stuff - we all want to hear it, ONCE!

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Rael076Posted at 2021-11-21 12:51:51(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Thanks for all the info. From what I found out is this was an April Fool's joke in one of the Bowie forums this year. Someone made new artwork all packaged in a cd case. They confirmed it's fake.

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EevardPosted at 2021-11-21 15:11:41(122 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Every bit as genuine as Evansville '76!

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mrrubbishPosted at 2021-11-26 01:11:24(121 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Ernie Johnson is 100% genuine.  I was able to listen to it twice around the time of the auction.  The auction house provided cassettes to a few select journalists, I was a friend of one of them, this was standard practice at that time.  My memory of it is not too hot but what impressed me most was that it was clearly multi-tracked, so many of Bowie's demos from that era are just 1 track recordings.  It's no lost masterpiece though I would love to hear it again.  

The CD is definitely a fake.

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ayresPosted at 2021-11-26 16:35:47(121 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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It's a material that will never be officially released because it has a racist song or at least that's the excuse for not being released.
From time to time this subject comes back in forums.
The closest I know to the truth is that the owner of the original tape is named Martin, he himself wrote a text on the BWW forum and was trying to sell the tape on ebay.
As far as I know, this cd circulates in the hands of few collectors and it won't be easy for someone to put these songs on the internet.
So if you ask yourself if the cds that appear on the internet are real...they are but if you ask whoever shows these pictures they will tell you it's just a joke
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/bowiewonderworld/viewtopic.php?p=254937#p254937

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bowiebingoPosted at 2021-11-26 19:05:31(121 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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I thought Kevin Cann had bought the original tape...

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Rael076Posted at 2021-12-01 03:24:32(121 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Hopefully one day it surfaces here. Someone will find it in a drawer or closet and hopefully put it out there for us to hear. As far as the ones that have it I wonder how they got it.

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ayresPosted at 2021-12-05 23:12:30(120 wks ago) (Bowie General / Ernie Johnson cd? Is this real?)


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Sorry to inform you, but this specific material will not appear, it was almost made available on an old site, but at the last minute the guy regretted it.

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