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chrisnathouDonatedPosted at 2023-01-19 14:38:52(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Hi everyone,
Just bought a new semi-official release of the Rotterdam'76 concert called "Dutch Courage" (GoodShip Funke (!)) in an official cd store. It' s the complete concert in one cd but minus "Queen Bitch" and the band intro...
I bought it to know if it was un upgrade as it' s the same source, soundboard, as the versions posted here on BS...
It' s definitely an upgrade in my opinion, much better sound though still having Bowie's voice quite upfront... No hiss nor sound distortion if you see what I mean as found in other versions...
So I recommend this one if you see it and wonder what it will sound like, at last a decent recording of this great show, though still not 100% perfect (Mid-"Stay", and "WFTM" small bits muffled, some seconds, nothing serious).
It' s mentioned as a live broadcast but you can clearly hear it's the soundboard version but in much better sound, maybe from a higher generation source.
Has someone already read something about this one ? :?

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BallhausDonatedPosted at 2023-01-19 15:24:09(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Could you rip it and upload it?
As it's not an official release no one should complain

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chrisnathouDonatedPosted at 2023-01-19 15:35:08(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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The link:
https://we.tl/t-wG9HGJouxa
Will be interested about your own opinion after listening to it, thanks ;)

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homebrewPosted at 2023-01-19 17:50:25(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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What is a "semi-official" release? Similarly what is an official CD store? Everything that label releases is unofficial and retail stores that carry legitimate records and CD's might also sell certain unofficial material.



""I don't begrudge any artist for finding an audience"
- David Bowie abt. 1987
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willb3dPosted at 2023-01-19 18:28:37(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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This is an upgrade, for sure. The Captain Acid remaster of March 2012 with Erik Snow couldn't overcome the flaws such as the speed shifting every second.

But this sounds like an earlier generation tape and it plays smoothly. If one criticism could be made, it is that the pitch might be a little fast - but only a little.

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bowie78Posted at 2023-01-19 18:32:42(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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didnt think it was ever a fm recording????

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bowie78Posted at 2023-01-19 19:07:17(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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ah! read the text now...bootleggers miss information...not the first time thats happened....

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2023-01-19 19:23:29(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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They call it Amazon these days.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dutch-Courage-David-Bowie/dp/B0BPJHL1FZ

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2023-01-19 19:37:57(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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chrisnathou wrote:

Hi everyone,Just bought a new semi-official release of the Rotterdam'76 concert called "Dutch Courage" (GoodShip Funke (!)) in an official cd store. It' s the complete concert in one cd but minus "Queen Bitch" and the band intro...I bought it to know if it was un upgrade as it' s the same source, soundboard, as the versions posted here on BS...It' s definitely an upgrade in my opinion, much better sound though still having Bowie's voice quite upfront... No hiss nor sound distortion if you see what I mean as found in other versions...So I recommend this one if you see it and wonder what it will sound like, at last a decent recording of this great show, though still not 100% perfect (Mid-"Stay", and "WFTM" small bits muffled, some seconds, nothing serious).It' s mentioned as a live broadcast but you can clearly hear it's the soundboard version but in much better sound, maybe from a younger generation source.Has someone already read something about this one ? :?

thank you

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chrisnathouDonatedPosted at 2023-01-19 20:06:04(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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The cd I share wasn't bought in Amazon but in a record and book store in my town this afternoon for 17€ where such cds are not found usually... I can send the ticket by wetransfer and give the link to anyone who wants to see it. I call a  semi-official cd a bootleg that's sold as if it was an official issue, that's all... If you want it's my own expression to explain this. But the most important thing above all is that i bought it and that I share it with you all, and you can download it now if you want it...
But anyone is also free to buy it from Amazon if he wants to (the link is given a little bit above)...
The store where I bought it:
https://www.fnac.com/a17600908/David-Bowie-Dutch-Courage-Radio-Broadcast-Rotterdam-1976-CD-album#omnsearchpos=1

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nogginPosted at 2023-01-20 04:42:51(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Thanks.

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boureedDonatedPosted at 2023-01-20 09:31:09(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Thanks a lot!!

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surflingDonatedPosted at 2023-01-20 10:27:29(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Thank you Chris, looking forward to listening to this!

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blomwmPosted at 2023-01-20 10:40:36(62 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Thanks a lot!


wB B)



And so the story goes,they wore the clothes
They said the things to make it seem improbable
The whale of a lie like they hope it was
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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2023-01-20 14:33:24(61 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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"Partially Unofficial"

I bought this in HMV Glasgow.

https://www.discogs.com/release/1533819-David-Bowie-Ziggy-Stardust-And-The-Spiders-From-Mars-Live

Oi just meant that bootlegs in 'proper record stores' is nothing new.
:-@

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StardustpageDonatedPosted at 2023-01-20 15:04:58(61 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Thanks for the link  :)

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bofinken57Posted at 2023-01-20 17:09:02(61 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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thanks from sweden

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Stranger09DonatedPosted at 2023-01-20 21:06:43(61 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Thanks for sharing - it does indeed sound better.

However, it's a shame that the people who made it didn't get the memo about the Loudness War ending a decade or so ago. Someone there brickwalled it.

Ah well, like I said still better but people still need to look up and understand what the 'Loudness War' was ....

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damienjonesPosted at 2023-01-22 16:40:02(61 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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Thank you for sharing this update.
Rotterdam 76 is the first bootleg I bought. It is a cassette tape (I still own it) bought at a flea market in 84/85 (during the 20th century ;) ).

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NeddiePosted at 2023-01-23 09:32:54(61 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Dutch Courage" release semi-official cd)


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big thanks Chris

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