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TenInchStumpPosted at 2017-05-09 13:05:55(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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Sorry if this is old news, but I just saw this...posted at Hoffman 2 days ago, starts here (post 1285):

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/what-bowie-are-you-listening-to-this-week.493059/page-52

Several posts:

"a bootleg just released called Another Gouster, unfinished songs from Young Americans sessions."

"it's a small group of fans release cdr, tracklist is
1- Dancing(take 1)
2-Dancing(take 2)
3-it's gonna be me(take 1)
4-Can you HERE me(take 1)
5-After Today(take 2)
6-Lazer
7-S.Rubes"

"full songs...shilling(5.26) and Lazer (6.10)
lyrics below
Shilling The Rubes - Lay in the corner/How long have you been awake?/You lay out your life/How much did he take?/Never counting the change/Passed into another/ It’s only a ferris wheel/It’s only a house of fear/It’s only a three-ring circus/Ringmaster, cannonball/Never counting the change/Passed into another/Now he’s gone Gone, /the day that he left town/Gone, he was shilling the rubes/Gone, let the tears of a clown/And he’s gone,/ he was shilling the rubes /Fifteen new faces/Fifteen new days/Still won’t forget him/Hot boiling craze/Never counting the change/He passed into another/Now he’s gone Gone,/ the day that he left townGone,/ he was shilling the rubes/Gone, let the tears of a clown/And he’s gone,/ he was shilling the rubes/ Gone, the day that he left town/Gone, he was shilling the rubes/Yeah gone,/ let the tears of a clown/Oh, he was shilling the rubes

Lazer - Let's hear it for the Gouster,/
Baggy pants and a watch chain/Dressed down like the spirit and his game/But mirror, mirror on the wall sees all/But your doo-wop rag made you look tough/Razor blades in her braMirror,/ mirror on the wall/ I am the laserBurning through your eyes/And I know what kind of flame you have/I know what fear you hide /Hear it for the t-shirt/Oh, those crew cuts that hurt/Clicking jigaboo so Lenny Bruce/Mirror, mirror on the wall sees all/Dog tooth or paisley?/Processed or strained?/But mirror, mirror on the wall says/ I am the laserBurning through your lies/You’ll join my other world some day/Then gaze in through outside/ I am the laserBurning through your lies/You’ll join my other world some day/You’ll gaze in through outside"

"I can't give you more than lyrics...soon will be release a colored vinyl with this material in superb quality"

"and there's more to come in few months..."

"you can't find this material on youtube, this material is circulating since 2009 and soon will be unofficially released."



:help  :help

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fredlindbergPosted at 2017-05-09 16:38:29(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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Interesting for sure!

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steve23yhPosted at 2017-05-09 18:42:18(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)
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Bring it on.  Shame it's going to be vinyl, but fingers crossed it'll get ripped once it appears.

:D



Don't blame me, I didn't do it!
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gousterPosted at 2017-05-09 19:25:38(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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I would suggest that this may well be someone fishing! The track listing looks strange and the lyrics to "Shilling The Rubes" and "Laser" have been copied from my website... http://www.theyoungamerican.co.uk/sigma_sound_sessions.htm.

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CrackedActorPosted at 2017-05-09 23:55:49(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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Quote:

soon will be unofficially released.

Interesting concept.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2017-05-10 14:40:08(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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I am checking with my bootleg suppliers as I write this.
Personally if it is real....include me in for sure!!

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cygnetPosted at 2017-05-10 16:52:37(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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So if this is true then why isn't this generating more interest???

Something like this being released and only 5 replies?Doesn't make sense to me. So have more people got this than we know!

Not too much, if anything being mentioned on other Bowie sites either. Is silence golden????

EDIT - Not mentioned at all on BWW. Neither on IDBD. Nor on Bowienet either!

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2017-05-10 21:32:13(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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gouster wrote:

I would suggest that this may well be someone fishing! The track listing looks strange and the lyrics to "Shilling The Rubes" and "Laser" have been copied from my website... http://www.theyoungamerican.co.uk/sigma_sound_sessions.htm.

Phishing - I agree Gouster, we all know the tape is in an American University can't remember where.

But if it is true COUNT ME IN AS WELL

Steveboy



NO DISCUSSION I JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO THE MUSIC
WANTED
FRANKFURT 1976
1978 REHEARSALS
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angiebowiePosted at 2017-05-10 21:41:22(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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The shit will hit the fan in the inner circle if this gets released!

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2017-05-11 06:09:23(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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angiebowie wrote:

The shit will hit the fan in the inner circle if this gets released!

The infamous INNER CIRCLE has it been breached. Thanks for that Ange.

Still think it's fishing.

Steveboy



NO DISCUSSION I JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO THE MUSIC
WANTED
FRANKFURT 1976
1978 REHEARSALS
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angiebowiePosted at 2017-05-11 15:46:52(359 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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A few European men around a camp fire plotting revenge I'd say ;)

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nickfaPosted at 2017-05-16 10:50:17(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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More likey a  Brazil nut.

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gousterPosted at 2017-05-16 16:48:05(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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Good one Nick!  :D

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willb3dPosted at 2017-05-17 16:20:20(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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Steveboy wrote:

...we all know the tape is in an American University can't remember where.

Drexel University.

google google google:

Drexel University and Pete Humphries have perfect digital copies - digitized by Toby Seay of Drexel - and Bowie's archives have them too, and Bowie's archives have the physical analog tapes.

And whoever was selling them on ebay originally made a copy too - probably on inferior equipment.

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gousterPosted at 2017-05-17 17:46:41(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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willb3d wrote:

Steveboy wrote:

...we all know the tape is in an American University can't remember where.

Drexel University.google google google:Drexel University and Pete Humphries have perfect digital copies - digitized by Toby Seay of Drexel - and Bowie's archives have them too, and Bowie's archives have the physical analog tapes.And whoever was selling them on ebay originally made a copy too - probably on inferior equipment.

Drexel University have the physical tapes and the Bowie archive hold digital copies only. I can say that with absolute certainty as I spent a few days with Toby Seay last September at the Lisbon Conference.

There is a piece on this on my website - http://www.theyoungamerican.co.uk/sigma_sound_sessions.htm.

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willb3dPosted at 2017-05-17 17:49:40(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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gouster wrote:

Drexel University have the physical tapes and the Bowie archive hold digital copies only. I can say that with absolute certainty as I spent a few days with Toby Seay last September at the Lisbon Conference.There is a piece on this on my website - http://www.theyoungamerican.co.uk/sigma_sound_sessions.htm.

You know that's what I thought! Because there are so many photos of Seay holding the analog tapes, and I figured all those photos couldn't be old! But the article I saw wrongly said Bowie's camp got the original tapes. Thanks for the correction.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2017-05-18 10:39:16(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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According to my suppliers this is fictional - no such release is either available or scheduled at this point that any of them know about, and this includes the Japanese labels too.
His exact comment was "this is causing a lot of head scratching & blank looks"
Shame.

I wonder how it came to be that a US university managed to get the original tapes?

Finally - @ willb3d - tried to go to your website above & constantly get a 404 - page not found on this server error

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neilwilkesPosted at 2017-05-18 11:12:12(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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Thanks Mel.
Will bookmark this one now as I had not seen it before.
Much appreciated

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nickfaPosted at 2017-05-18 11:25:11(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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[quote=neilwilkes] According to my suppliers this is fictional - no such release is either available or scheduled at this point that any of them know about, and this includes the Japanese labels too.His exact comment was "this is causing a lot of head scratching & blank looks"Shame.

If you read through the whole posts the guy has written, on that  forum, you will soon realize  they come from the same poster who has plagued many forums on the subject of these recordings, since they first emerged.



"I wonder how it came to be that a US university managed to get the original tapes?"

If my memory serves me well the whole of the tape archive at sigma studio's were transferred to the University, The tapes would have been stolen from there originally I guess, so returned to the owner so to speak.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2017-05-18 11:35:39(358 wks ago) (Bowie General / "Another Gouster"??)


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Thanks Nickfa
I have not read through all those posts - life is too short to waste on that kind of idiot.
There was definitely a missed opportunity with the last box set there and add this to all the stuff still unreleased from the previous set's coverage and I have to wonder why. The cynic in me suggests there will be yet more cash grabs from Parlophone and silly sods like me will probably still buy them all. Oh well.

As for where the tapes ended up, it is still strange how they were not taken away at the time and got left behind. With the masters for Gouster, we know these went back to London & we also know from images in the WCIBN box that the unreleased tracks were included in this as "spares" so there have to be copies in the Label vaults, surely and there is also the Boston 72 show that was obviously properly recorded (we have seen 5 tracks surface in all officially) but still remains unissued.
That said, who can tell - the much touted RCA CD versions were all taken from Umatic digital copies and it was not until the Ryko project (or "Sound & Vision" on EMI as it was in the UK) that they went back to the original tapes again.

Sometimes I am still shocked as to how badly this catalogue has been handled. Going OT here, look at the blatant cash grab that is the "Legacy" release - it's poor remasters of the previous year's "Nothing Has Changed" with fewer discs/tracks at the same price.

Fingers crossed these all surface at one point.

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