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tvc61Posted at 2020-05-15 10:52:36(259 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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The mystery over the 3 concerts in Boston on the 14 ,15 & 16 Nov 74
Most sources say that on the 15th show Bowie starts Changes but the stops and performs Panic in Detroit but the only recordings of this incident appear on the I'm Only Dancing and Soul in Boston CDs which only capture 10 songs from this show  , if this is correct it means all the other recordings of the 15th shows are incorrect , but to add to the confusion  all the 15th recordings feature Bowie saying "see you tomorrow" at the end of the 15th show which means they cannot be the 16th the last night in Boston.
Is there any source that can prove on what night Bowie play accutaly performed Panic in Detroit in Boston in November 74 . ??

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2020-05-15 11:40:49(259 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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Somewhere in the forums there is a thread on this from a few years ago i'll see if I can find it.

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DiedrichDonatedPosted at 2020-05-16 12:17:30(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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http://www.davidbowieworld.nl/mijn-bootlegs-2-2/tour-recordings/1974-the-diamond-dogs-tour/


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tvc61Posted at 2020-05-16 13:21:11(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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The key to establishing the correct dates is to verify on what date Bowie performed Panic in Detroit  , I've listened to all the shows and the dates are incorrect the 16 is the same as the 15 but if Bowie did perform Panic on the 15th then as I said all the other shows claiming to be from the 15th are incorrect

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2020-05-16 16:40:27(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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Take a look here


http://www.theyoungamerican.co.uk/tour_5_live_recordings.htm

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tvc61Posted at 2020-05-16 17:15:54(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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Yes that site also says Panic was on the 15th, but most of the recordings dated the 15th and recent bootleg vinyl releases dated the 15th do not have Panic in Detroit so they fore must be from the 14th or 16th shows

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2020-05-16 18:37:54(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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I've found some notes I made. It may help

Boston 15-11-1974 Only 11 Tracks

Changes take 1  is aborted after 34 seconds

After Changes take 2
Good evening ..............We got some new songs to do........
This one is about..............called Young Americans



This is now believed to be the 14-11-1974
THEY PULLED IN FROM BOSTON
WHITE DISCS FROM Toady

intro Ladies & Gentlemen David Bowie between MOFF & RR

During intro to Young Americans
Hello...Good evening This is a song about Young Americans

After WYRnRWM
The Mike Garson Band......

After Moonage Daydream there is a Band Intro
followed by - This is another new song.............
Its called Can You Here Me [says twice]

This is called Somebody Up There Likes Me

Bless You thank you, thank you very much after RnRS

Thank you so much we love you see you tomorrow after DD


16-11-1974
After Changes and during YA  Good evening Boston...........
This ones a new one called YA

Before JG this was originally written in Detroit but finihed in NY

Band intro after MD
This a....this is a love song and its called CYHM
Thank You at end

Slight cut at start of SUTLM

After RnR suicide ........we love you thank you yeah,......

After DD   Yeah thank you


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tvc61Posted at 2020-05-16 22:42:24(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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Thanks Steveboy ,that makes sense of the 3 shows I've got I through Bowies dialect during the shows l can confirm that the the 15th is the 15 ,and the 14th is the 16th which means the night Bowie performed Panic in Detroit was the 14th
Another Lock-down mystery solved  Thanks

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bofinken57Posted at 2020-05-17 13:08:58(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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tvc61 wrote:

Thanks Steveboy ,that makes sense of the 3 shows I've got I through Bowies dialect during the shows l can confirm that the the 15th is the 15 ,and the 14th is the 16th which means the night Bowie performed Panic in Detroit was the 14th Another Lock-down mystery solved  Thanks

so there is no recording from the 16th at all then ???

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tvc61Posted at 2020-05-17 18:14:48(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)


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Yes the show incorrectly dated the 14th is the 16th concert

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steve23yhPosted at 2020-05-17 18:25:14(258 wks ago) (Bowie General / Boston November 74 correct dates ?.?)
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I've always worked on the belief/principle that the Plastic Soul silver (the Joe Maloney recording) is from the 14th, but usually mis-dated; and the half concert recording (the one I upped as 'I'm Only Dancing', as part of the HG Tapes) is the 15th.  I remember reading somewhere that Joe didn't write the date on his tape, and didn't keep the ticket stub, so didn't know which night he'd attended!

Never studied the recording circulated as the 16th in detail, as it's pretty flaky - but yes, had heard that it's simply a degraded version of the 14th.

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