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discogivorePosted at 2020-07-10 21:21:13(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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Setlist.fm reports “Warsawza” was played on this tv show. I am duvious that it was. I do not believe that it was played on that tour. If so, is there a recording?

January 29,1996
David Bowie Setlist
at AVRO TV Studio, Hilversum, Netherlands

Hallo Spaceboy
The Voyeur of Utter Destruction
Under Pressure
Warszawa
(First performance since December 7, 1978)

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steve23yhPosted at 2020-07-11 07:42:38(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)
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A massive 53 seconds of it is on the end of the audio compilation 'TV is King' (credited as Karel TV, Amsterdam 3-Feb-96, but of course Hilversum is more likely to be correct).  So the answer does appear to be that it's genuine, but I don't know if a complete recording is around.

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strangewaysPosted at 2020-07-11 10:27:37(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)
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It's "Warszawa", unless that spelling mistake was intentional - after all, it also reportedly appeared on early pressings of "Stage". ;-)

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bofinken57Posted at 2020-07-11 14:03:54(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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This show was in netherlands 96 only (i i think i have the right tour dates from several books)

1996-01-28 Utrecht, The Netherlands (Jaarbeurs Utrecht/Prins v. Oranjehal)

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steve23yhPosted at 2020-07-11 14:09:44(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)
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So a TV appearance around the same time would make sense.


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Jean-HenriPosted at 2020-07-11 18:37:30(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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David Bowie performed live at this Dutch tv show. It was recorded at a bar at the Rembrandt square in Amsterdam. At the end of the show a Dutch guest musician played Warzawa live on a piano.

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Jean-HenriPosted at 2020-07-11 18:44:30(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhVGZqpiZWY


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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2020-07-11 21:15:20(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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It's on here......

https://www.bowiestation.com/torrents-details.php?id=2384

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CosmicJiveDonatedPosted at 2020-07-13 17:17:37(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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The show opened with the guest piano player (few bars of Sense of doubt) and he also closed the show playing Warszawa. So technically Bowie didn't perform the song.. Though Carlos is playing along a bit.

In fact they started with the performance followed by the interview. The ran through the songs three times. There were two broadcasts edited one with a shorter interview and all songs and one with longer interview (including the Laura Ashley bit) and Under Pressure.

The original broadcast can be bought on DVD from the Dutch institute of Sound and Vision (www.beeldengeluid.nl). I bought it many years ago for about 30 euro (they make a copy straight of the highres digital file to dvd so it's of much better quality than the original broadcast recordings). Lots of other Bowie footage is available or can be digitalised.

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2020-07-14 08:36:42(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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CosmicJive wrote:

The show opened with the guest piano player and he also closed the show playing Warszawa. So technically Bowie didn't perform the song.. Though Carlos is playing along a bit.In fact they started with the performance followed by the interview. The ran through the songs three times. There were two broadcasts edited one with a shorter interview and all songs and one with longer interview (including the Laura Ashley bit) and Under Pressure.The original broadcast can be bought on DVD from the Dutch institute of Sound and Vision (www.beeldengeluid.nl). I bought it many years ago for about 30 euro (they make a copy straight of the highres digital file to dvd so it's of much better quality than the original broadcast recordings). Lots of other Bowie footage is available or can be digitalised.

So can you upload your copy please??

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CosmicJiveDonatedPosted at 2020-07-14 10:46:11(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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Well it's a bit of a grey area isn't it? It's copyright is owned by the Dutch television broadcaster AVRO (now AVROTROS) and the show is officially available for purchase from the Dutch television archives, making it sort of an 'official release'.

It also mentions in the description of the TOPPOP* youTube video:

...the video recording of the video clip was originally recorded by AVROTROS Broadcasting. AVROTROS Broadcasting hereby warrants and represents that it is the sole and exclusive owner of the physical film and/or videotape footage in this video clip.

The performance of the artist(s) in the clip was filmed and recorded with the written consent of the artist(s) and their representatives.

*TOPPOP is also owned by AVROTROS

I don't know how you moderators feel about this? Falls this under the category official?

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2020-07-16 16:59:25(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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Can you send me a link to the web site where this is available to buy?? as the link above I cannot find anything about sales

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steve23yhPosted at 2020-07-16 22:03:57(276 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)
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I tried as well.  Searched for 'Bowie' and 'David Bowie' - nada


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jamesthecatDonatedPosted at 2020-07-18 14:38:15(275 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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Me too - nothing!

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neilwilkesPosted at 2020-07-18 15:18:36(275 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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Same here - absolutely zip.

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wishupon1Posted at 2020-07-18 20:49:26(275 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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On this site you can search through the collection....https://zoeken.beeldengeluid.nl/

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SnipertjePosted at 2020-08-19 17:45:40(271 wks ago) (Request for upload/Reseed/ISO / Hilversum, netherlands 1996.... warsawza?!)


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The Pianist was Kees Wennekendonk who played the 53 seconds

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