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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-13 19:42:39(132 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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i used to trade cdrs send em all over the globe. but for the last 15 years i havent done that.
So (i know its a lot to ask) what are the Must have's

Studio outtakes/soundboard boots ..

i was so happy with leon.. stunning.. so what else should i get?

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DiedrichDonatedPosted at 2021-10-14 11:46:16(132 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Hey
see my website, you can find most of them on BS


Greeting
Diedrich

and this is my Bowie website:
http://www.davidbowieworld.nl
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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-10-14 14:06:56(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Moony wrote:

i used to trade cdrs send em all over the globe. but for the last 15 years i havent done that.So (i know its a lot to ask) what are the Must have'sStudio outtakes/soundboard boots ..i was so happy with leon.. stunning.. so what else should i get?

It depends on what you are looking for, and from what period.
If you could give us an idea then I can let you know what my 'must have' titles are, although this is extremely subjective of course.
Another thing to bear in mind is that just because a title may be an audience recording does not necessarily mean it sounds rough - in some cases far, far from it as with an audience recording you get what was heard whereas with some soundboard recordings (and I know this not only because I have plenty but also because before I went into the studio I was a front of house mix engineer and know from experience that sound board recordings will vary enormously in quality terms.
The smaller the venue the bigger the problems because a desk recording only has what was captured by onstage mics and to give an example of the 'Small Clubs' tour, will more than likely be drum/bass & vocal heavy - you won't get much from the onstage guitar amps, for example.

Some superb audience recordings include the following:
The Bewlay Brothers at The Hammersmith (Odeon) - Rattlesnake 3CD
Atlantic City 2004 1st Night - Wardour 2CD
A Reality In Osaka (final show ever in Japan) - Wardour 2CD

But it all really depends on your preferred periods

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homebrewPosted at 2021-10-14 14:13:02(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Different people have different tastes. 20 years ago I had to have everything. Within the past few years I have become more discerning about sound quality and I have traded away nearly all of my audience recordings in favor of crystal clear recordings. I want to put on a bootleg for a group of people and have them ask 'what album is that?'. So my must haves are probably quite different than someone else's.


""I don't begrudge any artist for finding an audience"
- David Bowie abt. 1987
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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-10-14 14:59:32(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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homebrew wrote:

Different people have different tastes. 20 years ago I had to have everything. Within the past few years I have become more discerning about sound quality and I have traded away nearly all of my audience recordings in favor of crystal clear recordings. I want to put on a bootleg for a group of people and have them ask 'what album is that?'. So my must haves are probably quite different than someone else's.

Which says what I was trying to say in a much more elegant manner than my post.
Just like you, there was a time when I had to have everything - and when the factory silvers pop up I will usually buy them unheard simply because hard drives fail (this has happened to me on a few occasions) and in all honesty I prefer to have the factory silvers (a personal quirk).
What I will not buy are so-called 'Trade CD-R' as these are in truth just burned discs and you have no way to know what speed they were burned at, neither can you tell what they are made of (there are both the old style organic dyes in use as well as more recent inorganic) and you cannot ever know how long they will keep playing as fast burns = more BLER (Block Errors) and so on. I have been burned with these (pun unintentional) so often it's not funny.

Additionally, not all 'out takes' releases are what they seem either - there are several instances of tracks being literally faked, and the quality can vary enormously too.

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-14 19:35:24(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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basicly any.. i own roughly 200+ boots.. vinyl cdr cd dvd ect.
so i know the quality issues.. but its just that i havent been active for years

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-14 21:56:59(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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thank you

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-15 21:40:32(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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neilwilkes wrote:

Moony wrote:

i used to trade cdrs send em all over the globe. but for the last 15 years i havent done that.So (i know its a lot to ask) what are the Must have'sStudio outtakes/soundboard boots ..i was so happy with leon.. stunning.. so what else should i get?

It depends on what you are looking for, and from what period.If you could give us an idea then I can let you know what my 'must have' titles are, although this is extremely subjective of course.Another thing to bear in mind is that just because a title may be an audience recording does not necessarily mean it sounds rough - in some cases far, far from it as with an audience recording you get what was heard whereas with some soundboard recordings (and I know this not only because I have plenty but also because before I went into the studio I was a front of house mix engineer and know from experience that sound board recordings will vary enormously in quality terms.The smaller the venue the bigger the problems because a desk recording only has what was captured by onstage mics and to give an example of the 'Small Clubs' tour, will more than likely be drum/bass & vocal heavy - you won't get much from the onstage guitar amps, for example.Some superb audience recordings include the following:The Bewlay Brothers at The Hammersmith (Odeon) - Rattlesnake 3CDAtlantic City 2004 1st Night - Wardour 2CDA Reality In Osaka (final show ever in Japan) - Wardour 2CDBut it all really depends on your preferred periods

Basicly any... im just looking for good quality boots.. from then last 15 years

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-15 21:41:40(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Diedrich wrote:

Heysee my website, you can find most of them on BS

thank you .. that is an amazing site you run..

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-15 21:42:34(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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homebrew wrote:

Different people have different tastes. 20 years ago I had to have everything. Within the past few years I have become more discerning about sound quality and I have traded away nearly all of my audience recordings in favor of crystal clear recordings. I want to put on a bootleg for a group of people and have them ask 'what album is that?'. So my must haves are probably quite different than someone else's.

well basicly those are the gems im looking for..

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Stranger09DonatedPosted at 2021-10-16 12:22:59(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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There's always one...but I'd say be careful of just focussing on soundboard / FM recordings.

I do do that myself largely, but sometimes there can be great audience captures, or even 'very good' (perception will vary widely of course) quality audience recordings that capture a band's performances waaaay better than any FM / MX recording from that tour. Band performances vary from night to night and within a night, and Bowie and his bands are not an exception to that.

I focus on the description and samples before downloading, and will try downloading a bit or maybe the whole concert if there are no samples. It takes a little more time, but with artists I care about, it can be infinitely more rewarding.

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-18 17:34:20(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Stranger09 wrote:

There's always one...but I'd say be careful of just focussing on soundboard / FM recordings.I do do that myself largely, but sometimes there can be great audience captures, or even 'very good' (perception will vary widely of course) quality audience recordings that capture a band's performances waaaay better than any FM / MX recording from that tour. Band performances vary from night to night and within a night, and Bowie and his bands are not an exception to that.I focus on the description and samples before downloading, and will try downloading a bit or maybe the whole concert if there are no samples. It takes a little more time, but with artists I care about, it can be infinitely more rewarding.

i full understand.. but can you give me some titles?

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Stranger09DonatedPosted at 2021-10-19 14:39:07(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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I will come back to you: I was talking generally (ie not just about findings with Bowie but with all artists that I like), and it is subjective - hence personal opinion / personal evaluation counts - but I will check over my own favourites from the last 10-15 years of non mixing desk recordings and list them soon.

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-19 19:49:32(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Stranger09 wrote:

I will come back to you: I was talking generally (ie not just about findings with Bowie but with all artists that I like), and it is subjective - hence personal opinion / personal evaluation counts - but I will check over my own favourites from the last 10-15 years of non mixing desk recordings and list them soon.

looking foward to it . aslong as the quality is exceptional.. mixing desk isnt an issue.
thank you in advance

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Cow47Posted at 2021-10-20 14:12:48(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Have you heard Montreux 2002? That's the best new boot I can think of. Perfect quality, nearly 3 hour show.

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MoonyDonatedPosted at 2021-10-20 16:00:57(131 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Cow47 wrote:

Have you heard Montreux 2002? That's the best new boot I can think of. Perfect quality, nearly 3 hour show.

Cow47 wrote:

Have you heard Montreux 2002? That's the best new boot I can think of. Perfect quality, nearly 3 hour show.

yes got that one, really superb

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2021-11-22 03:36:50(126 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Love Song from Rare & Well Done has a section repeated to make it longer.
A cut-n-paste edit added onto the end ?

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MaddHatteringDonatedPosted at 2021-11-23 16:18:18(126 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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neilwilkes wrote:

Moony wrote:

i used to trade cdrs send em all over the globe. but for the last 15 years i havent done that.
So (i know its a lot to ask) what are the Must have's Studio outtakes/soundboard boots ..i was so happy with leon.. stunning.. so what else should i get?

It depends on what you are looking for, and from what period. If you could give us an idea then I can let you know what my 'must have' titles are, although this is extremely subjective of course.
Another thing to bear in mind is that just because a title may be an audience recording does not necessarily mean it sounds rough - in some cases far, far from it as with an audience recording you get what was heard whereas with some soundboard recordings (and I know this not only because I have plenty but also because before I went into the studio I was a front of house mix engineer and know from experience that sound board recordings will vary enormously in quality terms.The smaller the venue the bigger the problems because a desk recording only has what was captured by onstage mics and to give an example of the 'Small Clubs' tour, will more than likely be drum/bass & vocal heavy - you won't get much from the onstage guitar amps, for example. Some superb audience recordings include the following:
The Bewlay Brothers at The Hammersmith (Odeon) - Rattlesnake 3CD
Atlantic City 2004 1st Night - Wardour 2CDA
Reality In Osaka (final show ever in Japan) - Wardour 2CD

But it all really depends on your preferred periods

Is that AC boot different from the other one (two?) that are out there? I was at that show and I'm always seeking a better version than what I have. Currently I have Atlantic Dogs, though it's my–possibly flawed–understanding that Borgata Kill Appeal is the same tape.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2021-11-23 17:44:14(126 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Is that AC boot different from the other one (two?) that are out there? I was at that show and I'm always seeking a better version than what I have. Currently I have Atlantic Dogs, though it's my–possibly flawed–understanding that Borgata Kill Appeal is the same tape

It's almost certainly from the same tape - although I do have what claims to be a soundboard recording of the 1st night (the 29th), along with the Wardour edition (1st Night) and the 4CD 'Borgata Kill Appeal' (which is superb) although the latter is not factory silvers. It's a great show. The soundboard version is a different source, and is almost certainly an IEM feed where the Monitor Engineer probably created his own 2-channel mix on the fly, using spare outputs on the console to record this. The main problem with these recordings is that they are usually very, very dry - there may be a hint of reverb on the vocal to cut through & give a sense of space to the vocalists, but a well positioned audience taper who knows his stuff can often get a more appealing recording.
But well reminded on the Borgata Kill Appeal one - I must give that another spin soon.
PM with an email address will get you a copy, Maddhattering

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homebrewPosted at 2021-11-23 18:38:59(126 wks ago) (Chit Chat Lounge / new boots that are exeptional?)


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Stranger09 wrote:

There's always one...but I'd say be careful of just focusing on soundboard / FM recordings.I do do that myself largely, but sometimes there can be great audience captures, or even 'very good' (perception will vary widely of course) quality audience recordings that capture a band's performances waaaay better than any FM / MX recording from that tour. Band performances vary from night to night and within a night, and Bowie and his bands are not an exception to that.I focus on the description and samples before downloading, and will try downloading a bit or maybe the whole concert if there are no samples. It takes a little more time, but with artists I care about, it can be infinitely more rewarding.

This is true. I didn't mean to imply that I dismiss all audience recordings. There are some that I will grab without even listening to them such as anything recorded by Mike Millard, Joe Maloney, John Wizardo masters can be worth looking for as are the JEMS recordings (many of which are Mike Millard tapes).

Some of my favorites, AUD and SBD, by era include:

Ziggy Goes to East - 1973-04-11
Suicide Attack - 1973-04-20

Boston Music Hall (Joe Maloney) - 1974-7-16
Strange Fascination or A Portrait in Flesh - 1975-09-05
Anaheim California (Mike Millard) - 1974-09-16 (original master lost tape)

Vancouver Rehearsals - 1976-02-02
Nassau Colosseum - 1976-03-23

The Forum, Inglewood Ca - 1978-04-04 (Mike Millard Lost and Found JEMS)
Baton Rouge - 1978-11-04

Totally Serious, Montreal - 1983-07-13
Yokohama Japan - 1983-10-25 (SBD)

Milton Keynes - 1990-08-05 (pre FM)
Rock in Rio - 1990-09-20

Dallas '95 - 1995-10-13 (this was released officially in the Brilliant Live Adventures box set)

Loreley - 1996-06-22

Birthday Bash - 1997-01-09

Elysee Montmartre - 1999-10-14

Montreaux Jazz Festival - 2002-07-18
Paris - 2002-09-25 (SBD)

Shrine Auditorium - 2004-02-02

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