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bowiebootsPosted at 2016-07-07 18:28:54(466 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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Is it possible to convert shows such as Netaid and other 4.3 res shows to Wide screen ?

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PiggwinnPosted at 2016-07-07 18:51:23(466 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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Why crop owt I thought that was sacralidge, or do you mean 4:3 ratio on 16/9?
Talking of widescreen,  has anyone confirmed yet if ZTMP was originally projected at 1:66 ratio? it used to be a rumour years ago.



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JanErikPosted at 2016-07-07 18:54:24(466 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)
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It is surely possible, but you need to either crop or stretch the picture.

It can easily be done with Handbrake:
https://handbrake.fr/

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FavouriteTipplePosted at 2016-07-07 22:28:48(466 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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As suggested above, it can be done but unless you have the editing tools to move the cropped area to feature the most relevant part of the cropped frame, you risk simply cutting the top and bottom off the 4:3 frame, which is potentially useless and redundant as you'll lose information (e.g. the top or bottoms of faces). To do it to any decent standard would take quite a while as you'd have to adjust the 16:9 for every single shot and camera movement. Not easy.

Of course, such geeky things might not matter to yourself. Good luck!

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PiggwinnPosted at 2016-07-08 10:33:35(466 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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http://www.movavi.com/support/how-to/converting-with-correct-aspect-ratio.html  
I'm sure there will be many similar and better but this one looks pretty straightforward.



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bowiebootsPosted at 2016-07-08 23:21:31(466 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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Thanks, so we wont be getting an upgraded Video collection then

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FavouriteTipplePosted at 2016-07-22 23:36:57(464 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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Well, it has been done, for instance, with Queen's Greatest Hits video DVD collections, but it can be annoying with certain shot compositions which were designed for 4:3 ratio and then cropped to 16:9. Plus depending on the source footage (e.g. 8mm/16mm or early video) then a 16:9 crop you risk deterioration of the image.

Personally, I usually prefer the original screen ratio, which you'll find, as another example, on the Led Zeppelin DVD (2003). Their Earl's Court video footage was only about 252 lines, as opposed to PAL which is 625 lines and NTSC which is 576 lines. Compare to HDTV's 1080 lines and you get an idea of what cropping can do, even with digital upgrading.

Anyway, I'm geeking out. :P

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mlonugPosted at 2023-06-21 14:09:54(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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I have always used different software for such purposes, but when it comes to video playback I have always preferred best mac media player

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CraigVPosted at 2023-06-22 10:30:21(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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I always use HD Video Factory Free which gives me very good results:

https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/free-hd-video-converter/

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SteveboyDonatedPosted at 2023-06-22 10:54:12(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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Video Process Converter, not free but not expensive either.
I use it for loads of stuff.

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BallhausDonatedPosted at 2023-06-22 17:00:29(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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If you want the keep the aspect ratio, you need to cut. As many if the "old" tv footages like netaid are at 640 x 480 you end up with approx 640 x 360 pix, which will be rather grainy. Of course you can try by ai to improve the picture quality. Many have tried. So far I've only seen the Peter Jackson let it be, where it worked.

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eximPosted at 2023-06-22 17:36:41(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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If just playing on a PC, players like VLC and smplayer have a zoom crop feature so you can play back the original file adjusted without converting it.

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neilwilkesPosted at 2023-06-23 10:41:31(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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I don't really understand why anyone would do this in the first place - there is nothing wrong with 'Full Frame' (aka 4:3) and some great films have been made with this Aspect Ratio. It's equally fascinating that almost as soon as TV sets were being manufactured in Widescreen the cinema films suddenly got stretched out even further too - why is it that Hollywood seems to think it's not a film without black bars at top & bottom of the image!

As far as putting things on Optical Discs is concerned, the simple solution is to place the 4:3 original onto a 16:9 frame, forcing pillar boxes to either side but ensuring that modern TV systems that are not set up properly (all too commonly, people simply run them as they are delivered, which is a huge mistake because TV sets are set up at the factory simply to get an image & sound - you are then supposed to set up properly for your equipment, but most people don't bother - time and again I have seen TV sets in friend's houses where all those on TV look like Danny DeVito because the 4:3 original image has been automatically stretched to fill the screen.

It is also possible the films were originally shot in wide, but cropped for DVD release, in wehich case we will get genuine wide versions - on the Blu-ray set of Season 1 of 'Hammer House Of Horror', for example, one of the episodes appears uin both formats - 4:3 & 16:9 - because it was shot in that way originally buit cropped for 70's TV.

Basically, if it is genuinely 4:3 leave it alone, as to make this 16:9 you have to crop from top & bottom and that will throw away vertical resolution from 480 (or 576) to 360 - a horrendous drop in quality!

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bowie78Posted at 2023-06-23 11:26:59(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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as always from Neil informative and educational...

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professormouseDonatedPosted at 2023-06-26 12:31:42(103 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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i hit 'cinema' on my telly
if anything is an olde fashioned square [ish] picture

isn't there 'wall' televisions now ?

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neilwilkesPosted at 2023-06-27 11:05:39(102 wks ago) (Bowie General / Wide screen ?)


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professormouse wrote:

i hit 'cinema' on my tellyif anything is an olde fashioned square [ish] pictureisn't there 'wall' televisions now ?

That can be a serious poroblem, my friend.
What you need to watch out for are the motion settings under Cinema modes - on my LG OLED set, I had to go through all the settings manually & over-ride the defaults as they all used motion compensation, funny colour grading - the pitfalls are many & deep in places.
Motion compensation can cause nasty looking 'judder' on 24p video footage and should be turned off.

What's the make & model of your set please?

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